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Postby Space Penis » Sat Jun 25, 2005 1:03 pm

(A quick search didn't turn up anything, but I apologise if this has been answered before)

Has anyone ever been able to figure out why the MP Evas suddenly grow Rei's face in EoE? There didn't seem to be any sort of explanation given, and it's bugged me for ages. It just...happens. :?
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Sat Jun 25, 2005 1:14 pm

In the movie, they state that the MP Evas have syncronized or are resonating with Rei/Lilith. There is some sort of connection established amongst Lilith and the Units, what that is precisely is probably unimportant.

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Postby ObsessiveMathsFreak » Sat Jun 25, 2005 1:25 pm

Why this is happening might be because SEELE are still in control of the MP Eva's and are directing them to merge. Or perhaps the lack of a pilot might have something to do with it. It's actually a good question. SEELE did seem to support all of this, and it might be the case that the MP's needed to commit hari-kari in the manner that they did in order to join in complementation, so best to put them under GNRs control. Or perhaps the MP Eva's were designed with resonance with Lillth in mind.

All I know is my gut says maybe.
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Postby rb_182_ » Sat Jun 25, 2005 3:12 pm

I always just thought that they were actually designed by SEELE to merge with either Lillith or Unit 01/Lillith's clone in third impact. I never really thought why I kinda just went with whatever the hell they threw at me. my poor mind hurt the first time i watched it. lol
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Postby ObsessiveMathsFreak » Sat Jun 25, 2005 3:52 pm

This is the kind of thing we could get very lost in the pedantics of.
I think we can say at least that SEELE weren't against the idea of the MP's merging with Rei.
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Postby Space Penis » Sat Jun 25, 2005 3:54 pm

In what sense were the Evas merging with Lilith? They were clearly still seperate from GNR.
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Postby ObsessiveMathsFreak » Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:02 pm

Space Penis wrote:In what sense were the Evas merging with Lilith? They were clearly still seperate from GNR.

I believe Fuyutsuki says words to that effect immediately before the MP's grow lots of smiling Rei faces. Also, the MP's AT Fields shortly being resonating with each other, and with Rei.

Oh, I believe this is actually the answer to your original question. The MP Eva's sprout Rei faces because they are merging somehow with Lilith. Why they are doing this is another question.
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Postby Space Penis » Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:07 pm

ObsessiveMathsFreak wrote:
Space Penis wrote:In what sense were the Evas merging with Lilith? They were clearly still seperate from GNR.

I believe Fuyutsuki says words to that effect immediately before the MP's grow lots of smiling Rei faces. Also, the MP's AT Fields shortly being resonating with each other, and with Rei.

Oh, I believe this is actually the answer to your original question. The MP Eva's sprout Rei faces because they are merging somehow with Lilith. Why they are doing this is another question.


Waaaaaait a minute. Wasn't there a deleted scene when Armisael is trying to merge with Zerogouki, and it's other end sprouts a Rei-torso? :? Perhaps the dialogue there might shed some light. Or something. I've only seen in Japanese, so I have clue what they were sayin.
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Postby rb_182_ » Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:40 pm

yeah in episode 23' armisael merges with unit 00 and turns into a GNR before exploding. I'm not even going to try and figure that one out either. the commentary in the platinum books just says that they do this just because it also happens in EoE and it just sets the groundwork for EoE. I just think it's the angel's ability to kinda absorb and join with it's target.
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Postby sadsadshinji » Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:38 pm

in that case, it was either trying to incapacitate 01 or actually showing Rei's innermost desires (she says something to this effect: do i want to be one with ikari?)
that really didnt have much to do with the MP evas
the MP eva's probably started that crap after what everyone else said; the resonation of the AT fields

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Postby rb_182_ » Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:52 pm

Yeah it's true the two don't have anything in common but I just thought I would comment on it anyway.
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Postby Mr. Bud » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:29 am

Shinji's expressions to that happening are priceless.

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Postby rb_182_ » Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:08 am

Mr. Bud wrote:Shinji's expressions to that happening are priceless.


lol like his twitching eyes and crooked smile. :shock:
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Postby Reichu » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:56 am

If the harpies are supposed to be 'merging' with Lilith, they don't do a very good job... They get those horrifying mutated heads (as if they weren't ugly enough to begin with), and their bodies seem to take on marshmallowy properties, but otherwise they don't change at all.
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Postby rip3mwk » Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:21 am

I found them to be quite attractive... :wink: .

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Postby Soluzar » Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:26 am

rip3mwk wrote:I found them to be quite attractive... :wink: .

Have you met Treize X, also known as the Ryusanking? I imagine you two would get on so very, very well. ;)
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Postby Reichu » Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:38 pm

rip3mwk wrote:I found them to be quite attractive... :wink: .


Is this before or after their... uh... 'transmutation'?
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Postby rb_182_ » Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:31 pm

hopefully before. The regular evas looked cool, almost like fish head evas. but after they got creepy looking.
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Postby sadsadshinji » Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:37 am

nothing beats 01 or 02's respective heads...
they are just so much better

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Postby Mr. Bud » Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:24 am

sadsadshinji wrote:nothing beats 01 or 02's respective heads...
they are just so much better


And Unit-03's is essentially Unit-01's without a horn.


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